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Environmental Law SectionFebruary 1998 NewsletterArticles |
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The following is an interview with Dr. Sinclair, conducted by
J. Wayne Cropp, of the Chattanooga law firm of Grant, Konvalinka
& Harrison, P.C., on December 16, 1997. The interview has been
edited to accommodate length restrictions.
Rick M. Sinclair, Ph.D., is the Deputy Commissioner, Tennessee
Department of Environment and Conservation (TDEC), a position
he has held since 1997. In this position, he has responsibility
for the environmental regulatory, non-regulatory, and conservation
programs of the Department, as well as the States 51-State Park
and Natural Areas. Dr. Sinclair has held a number of positions
within the Department, including Acting Administrator, Assistance
and Support Administration, TDEC (1995-1996); Assistant Commissioner,
TDEC (1992-1995); Director, Division of Superfund, TDEC (1990-1992);
Deputy Director, Division of Water Pollution Control, TDEC (1988-1990);
and Engineer/Biologist, Division of Water Pollution Control, TDEC
(1972-1988). Dr. Sinclair obtained his Ph.D. in Environmental
Science from Vanderbilt University (1989), based upon a dissertation
regarding a site specific copper standard for the Duck River.
He also obtained his Masters in Environmental Science from Vanderbilt
(1981). Dr. Sinclair obtained his B.A. in Biology from David Lipscomb
University.
Cropp: Rick, with more than 25 years of experience in the environmental
field, what is your analysis about the progress we have made in
cleaning up our air and our water?
Sinclair: I think that most scientists will acknowledge that
we have made tremendous progress over the last 25 years. In terms
of air quality, the most dramatic examples are in our major cities.
At one point, most of our major cities were in non-attainment
with the Clean Air standards.
My background is water, and certainly the major rivers in East
Tennessee and a lot of the smaller streams throughout the State
were biological deserts the Wautaga River, the South Fork of
the Holston my job was to go sample those rivers, and they were
dead. Now, today, the Wautaga is a world-class trout fishery.
The South Fork of the Holston is a great shell cracker and bluegill
fishery. We have made tremendous progress.
Unfortunately, if you ask the general public, they feel the environment
has gotten progressively worse during those 25 years, so there
is a real disconnect between the progress that has been made,
and the general public opinion.
Cropp: What is the Department doing to address that disconnect?
Sinclair: We have a two-fold mission in this Department. One
is to protect the environment. But, we also have a responsibility
to educate Tennesseans about the status of their environment.
Soon, we will be going to press with the updated version of Tennessees
Report on the State of the Environment. This document highlights
the achievements we have made and explains technical matters on
a laymans level. This will help tell the story. The air quality
story is particularly impressive, as in 1980, over 50% of Tennesseans
lived in non-attainment areas and now over 99% breathe air that
is healthy.
Cropp: Tell me what your job is all about.
Sinclair: My job entails a lot of administrative assistance to
Commissioner Hamilton. Some of my most rewarding duties are to
work on Governor Sundquists main environmental initiative, to
create a single point of entry and re-engineering the way our
permits are issued. Over the past 25 years, our separate environmental
statutes evolved with very little coordination between environmental
programs. What we are doing now is purposely coordinating those.
When someone comes in seeking a permit, we do not let their lack
of knowledge drive the situation. We let our understanding drive
it. Also, re-engineering helps the environment, because now we
are helping the regulated community make sure they get all the
proper permits at the proper time.
What we are doing now is evaluating what permits are required
to protect the environment. At one point, we had 52 different
kinds of permits. You cannot convince me that 52 permits are
needed to meet our statutory requirements, and protect the environment.
Some of them may have only existed to generate a fee, or may have
otherwise outlived their usefulness. If it is obsolete, we want
to do away with it.
Cropp: How are going to go about training your personnel to handle
these multi-media issues?
Sinclair: That is going to be one of our biggest challenges,
getting people to understand the breadth of this program. The
first thing that we did is that we put it all together in an environmental
permitting handbook that is available to the public, and to our
own staff. So, for the first time, our staff can understand the
typical permits required for any basic industry classification.
Now, we have a template, published in hardback and on our web
site.
Cropp: A major change like this is going to create upheaval.
What kind of problems do you anticipate?
Sinclair: Well, we have not worked out all of the details. But
already, we are hearing some criticisms, so it is clear to me
that we need to have input in the whole process from many different
stakeholders. For instance, there has been a lot of discussion
about moving permitting out to the Regions, rather than having
it done in the Central Office. There could be some good reasons
why, in specific instances, we may not want to do that. A good
example may be the TVA Steam Plants. Right now, those are handled,
at least for water permitting, out of the Central Office. You
have better consistency right now by having one person do all
of the TVA Steam Plants. We would have to look very hard at putting
that out in the Regions where you would have to coordinate even
more carefully. I am not saying that we will not do that, but
I am saying that we will have to make sure that we actually give
the customer a better focus by doing it.
Cropp: What are the hot environmental topics in the upcoming
legislative session?
Sinclair: Right now, it looks like waste tires, hazardous waste
transportation, and stream rechannelization, including sinkholes,
will be on the legislative agenda.
Cropp: Regarding stream rechannelization and the ARAP permit
program, what type of legislation do you see? Is there going to
be any Administration sponsored legislation on that, or is it
all going to be coming out of the legislative committee process?
Sinclair: That effort is primarily coming out of the legislative
committee process. We feel that our re-engineering will address
some of the legislators concerns. We want to make sure that the
permitting that we are doing is environmentally effective, and
that it meets our standard for customer service. As we change
our field offices to environmental assistance centers, we are
going to attempt, and were making good progress I think, to change
the thinking of the staff to be more focused on environmental
outcomes, rather than on enforcement beans. In the past, there
was some concern that the focus was primarily on enforcement,
rather than on results. However, if the problem requires enforcement
to achieve the desired outcome, certainly the Commissioner will
not hesitate to proceed.
Cropp: How big an issue will the transportation of hazardous
and radiological waste become in Tennessee this year?
Sinclair: Well, there are quite a variety of federal and state
laws that govern the transport of hazardous and radioactive materials.
This Department does not regulate the transport of hazardous material.
That is regulated by the federal Department of Transportation.
The iceberg below the surface is hazardous material. The small
portion above the surface is hazardous waste. I think there was
some confusion among some members of the legislative committee
as to what is a hazardous waste and what is a hazardous material.
The smallest percentage is hazardous waste, and the larger percentage
is hazardous material gasoline, raw products, feed stocks
going to different companies. When the public sees the hazardous
material sign on there, they do not understand that hazardous
waste is different from hazardous materials. Actually, the waste
is less hazardous in a lot of cases, because it is mixed with
sand or water, for example.
Cropp: So, the current legislative effort that you see coming
down the road (no pun intended), will it affect both hazardous
wastes and hazardous materials?
Sinclair: I dont know what the end result will be. I really
feel that it was initiated because of Tennesseans concern about
the amount of toxic releases that are reported every year, and
that is a concern of ours as well.
In 1989, we were the second highest discharger of toxic chemicals.
I think that one of the outcomes of the legislative committee
working on this issue will be to provide support for the Governors
Clean Air Initiative, which really addresses the toxic release
issue. Tennessees businesses have done a remarkable job in voluntarily
reducing the amount of toxic chemicals that are released. What
we have done with our Clean Air Initiative is make sure that the
remaining toxic releases (102 million pounds a year) are not discharged
in a way that falls outside the regulatory net. Some environmentalists
and some legislators are concerned about chemicals that were not
covered under the toxic release inventory (TRI) list of chemicals.
About 80% to 90% of those 102 million pounds are discharged to
the air and not to the water. Most of these air releases fall
under the 1990 Clean Air Act (CAA) Amendments. However, manganese
has one of the highest risk factors, but it is not even considered
hazardous under the CAA. Our Clean Air Initiative will allow the
Tennessee Air Board to regulate manganese through a Best Available
Control Technology (BACT) type approach, whereas all of the
others (hazardous air pollutants) will fall under the more generic
Maximum Achievable Control Technology (MACT) approach, to which
federal guidelines will apply.
Cropp: Is there a major manganese source in Tennessee, or is
this a combination of sources?
Sinclair: That source is primarily in New Johnsonville, Tennessee.
That is where most of the manganese comes from.
Cropp: I was not sure how the 102 million pounds break down
in terms of air emissions versus total releases water, land
in terms of the inventory.
Sinclair: If you look at the 102 million pounds of total air,
land and water releases, probably 90% of that is air, so for all
intents and purposes, the TRI in Tennessee is air. We have dropped
in national standing from being #2, as far as having the highest
releases, to being 5th last year. Much of that has been accomplished
by voluntary reductions.
Cropp: Regarding the Governors new Clean Air Initiative, please
give me a little more detail about where that is headed. Is the
Governors Clean Air Initiative only speeding up the federal process
that is already in effect, or is there some substantive regulatory
control over and above the federal requirements?
Sinclair: In order to understand the Governors Clean Air Initiative,
you really need to break it down into its three components.
The first part truly does speed up implementation. We are the
first state in the nation to implement the federal program to
control newly constructed sources of toxic air pollution. This
affects the small window of time between now and the federal deadline
for implementing that new program.
The second part simply acknowledges the federal MACT program and
supports the new federal standards as they are adopted by EPA.
They will be presented to the Air Board and adopted here in Tennessee.
The third part is what is different. It applies to the 11% of
the TRI chemicals that are toxic, but are not considered hazardous,
according to EPA classification. So, for that 11% of the TRI chemicals,
a regulatory proposal will be made and presented to the Board.
We feel that closes the loop for these chemicals. For the vast
majority of industries, it will not be more stringent than federal
requirements. It will be invisible to them. But for the environment
and for Tennesseans health, in those few areas where there was
no regulation, we will provide that regulation.
Cropp: If I am hearing what you are saying, for the 11% of the
TRI chemicals that are not hazardous air pollutants under § 112
of the CAA, you will be adopting case-by-case BACT determinations,
do I have that correct?
Sinclair: Thats correct.
Cropp: Will this new regulatory initiative apply only to major
sources, generally 10 tons of a single regulated pollutant or
an aggregate of 25 tpy for the combination of regulated pollutants
as under the federal hazardous air pollutant program?
Sinclair: I do not know that we have made a decision to limit
that regulation only to major sources. What we are trying to do
is make sure that industrial classifications and chemicals that
are not covered under the federal act will be properly regulated.
Cropp: I am not sure that I understand the second point that
you refer to, that TDEC will be supporting EPA in terms of MACT
development. Is this just general support for MACT development,
or is there some issue of state law that you are going to resolve?
Sinclair: The second point is simply a reaffirmation that EPA
has adopted the best approach utilizing a technology approach
(MACT) on the front end of the process. Some states have passed
separate health-based standards that require industry to jump
through two regulatory hoops, perhaps with two different deadlines
for compliance that can completely waste resources. What we are
saying is that we feel that the national approach of utilizing
technology based standards is the appropriate approach for the
vast majority of industries, and we support that effort.
Cropp: Explain to our readers what is happening on the Pigeon
River and the agreement reached among EPA, the State of North
Carolina, the State of Tennessee and Champion International.
Sinclair: In a nutshell, the way the water permitting program
works in both North Carolina and Tennessee, is that a permit is
issued for five years. The last time North Carolina issued a permit
for Champion Paper, Tennessee objected strenuously and fought
the proposed North Carolina permit. Those efforts resulted in
a major mill modernization to the tune of $300 million, and there
was considerable cleanup effected. When that permit was reissued
for another five years last year, North Carolina approved a permit
that did not provide for incremental improvements over the last
permit. Tennessees approach, historically, has been to effect
progress incrementally. North Carolina was going to issue a permit
with EPAs concurrence. Tennessee again objected. The State has
been in negotiations with North Carolina and EPA, and North Carolina
and EPA have basically accommodated Tennessee. I believe this
will be one of the most important accomplishments in environmental
protection that has been made by this Department.
Cropp: Another important issue is the Great Smoky Mountains.
Tennessee recently signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU)
with the Department of Interior. How do you see the MOU affecting
economic development in East Tennessee?
Sinclair: As it has been said many times before, the Smoky Mountains
are, in themselves, a source of many jobs and a tremendous economic
benefit to the State. So, it is in our best interest to protect
that resource. I believe a much more serious impact to business
is caused by the new ozone standards, and the § 126 CAA petitions
that some of the northeastern states have filed against Tennessee.
I believe that with the 35% reduction in Nox that is going to
be required by the SIP call and the lowered ozone standard, that
many counties are not going to be in attainment any longer. We
have not been shown as a State that those standards are necessary
to protect human health and the environment. My concern is much
more with the ozone standard going from .12 to .08, and Nox emissions
being reduced by at least 35% than with the MOU with the Department
of Interior.
Cropp: What do you see happening under the new ozone and particulate
standards at this point?
Sinclair: We have no choice but to move into the implementation
phase. I was just in a meeting last week in Washington, D.C.,
where we talked about whether we would have 8-hour standards and
1-hour standards for the same county. My concern now is that is
exactly the case. We have some counties that may be required to
continue to plan to meet a 1-hour standard, as well as the new
8-hour standard. I believe it is going to be very difficult to
meet the new 8-hour standard. I know that EPA hopes that regional
controls will cause these counties to come into attainment. I
doubt that very seriously. I do not think that regional controls
alone will help you meet an .08 standard. I am concerned about
the level of local controls that will be required to achieve the
standards.
Cropp: I know the Commissioner is proud of the fact that there
has been more criminal enforcement this year than ever before.
Enforcement is also a topic for discussion because of the Comptrollers
report which was critical of TDECs enforcement program. What
is your response to that?
Sinclair: As you are aware, the Department was criticized rather
sharply in an audit this year. One thing that we were unable to
explain, as satisfactorily as I would have liked to, is that at
any given time, we are dealing with about 800 enforcement cases
from criminal violations to the nonpayment of fees. There is
a wide gamut. There are technical violations, and then there
are willful violations, some of which may even endanger the publics
water supply. What we do, and what I think the public wants us
to do, is prioritize our response. The Commissioner is proud of
the fact that we have had 14 criminal convictions this year, which
are more than during the entire history of this program.
As far as the audit, one criticism was that it took 200 days on
average to complete an enforcement case from the time a violation
is found until an Order is signed. We do not think time should
be the sole determinative of whether we are doing a good job.
We are certainly looking at that, and EPA has certain time clocks
to which we must adhere. But what we want to do is to communicate
to the public that we are prioritizing the severity of our enforcement
response.
Cropp: I understand that the Department is also moving from Commissioners
Orders to Directors Orders.
Sinclair: Directors Orders will now be issued in the following
Divisions: Water Supply, Underground Storage Tanks, Water Pollution,
Hazardous Wastes, and Superfund. Right now, we are working on
clarifying which kinds of enforcement actions can be taken unilaterally
by a Director as opposed to the Commissioner.
Cropp: So, you will still rely on Commissioners Orders?
Sinclair: Absolutely. In fact, most of the civil penalties that
were assessed this year, over $2 million assessed in approximately
200 orders, were in Commissioners Orders.
Cropp: I did not hear the Air Pollution Control Division mentioned
as one of the Directors Orders. Why is that?
Sinclair: The Technical Secretary already issues the Orders for
air pollution control based upon statutory authority under the
Tennessee Air Quality Act.
Cropp: What else would you like to say about the enforcement
issue?
Sinclair: We want to make sure the public knows about the new
environmental crime hotline that was created for the first time
this year. We have already had 41 calls made to the hotline for
the period of May through November.
Cropp: Is there anything else that you want to mention?
Sinclair: Well, I would mention the Governors Initiative to acquire new natural areas in Tennessee. We acquired four natural areas last year, and we anticipate that a similar effort will be made this year. One of the primary environmental issues facing Tennessee is the preservation of some of the last wild places in the State. The environment is well served by the preservation of areas such as the Ghost River section of the Wolf River in West Tennessee, and the Devils Backbone area in Lewis County, and the Walker Branch Preserve in Hardin County. Those type places are where we all need to go to restore our souls and appreciate what is important about Tennessees environment.
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As reported in the last issue of Environmental Law, the Section
has established a special Committee on Brownfields. This Committee
has been working for several months, but it is certainly not too
late to join in the effort. If interested, please call Jim Wright
at Butler, Vines & Babb.
The Committee has begun defining its short term goals, while working
on long term goals. As part of the short term goal development
process, the Committee has undertaken an analysis of the current
regulatory and statutory authority for the Tennessee Department
of Environment and Conservation to provide prospective purchasers
with assurances that they will not be subject to substantial liability
upon purchasing a contaminated property. Meetings with TDEC counsel
have begun to develop a consensus as to the usefulness of existing
authority for brownfields redevelop
ment.
As a result of these recent meetings, TDEC has agreed in principle
that the Commissioner may in appropriate circumstances enter into
a consent order (outside the Voluntary Oversight and Assistance
Program) fixing the liability of a prospective purchaser, or may
issue a comfort letter on a purchasers liability, under the
apportionment authority of Tenn. Code Ann. § 68-212-207. Though
this mechanism has not yet been used, the purchaser of a site
that will be returned to productive use, creating jobs, and on
which the purchaser is willing to conduct some environmental remediation
may be able to receive concrete assurances concerning state superfund
liability in a relatively short period of time.
Another existing but dormant tool for brownfields development
is the defense to liability in Tenn. Code Ann. § 68-212-202(3)(F)(i)(c)
for purchasers that exercise due care in buying contaminated
property. It may be argued that due care in a prospective purchaser
scenario would include creating no significant increase in the
risk of release or harm as a result of the future operations or
activities. The Commissioner could find, through the apportionment
provision, that the prospective purchaser is exercising due care
with respect to the hazardous substance concerned.
As to a long term goal, the Brownfields Committee has recommended
to the Section a legislative proposal that would establish an
environmental easement or restrictive covenant. This would allow
the Commissioner, in exchange for the imposition of restrictions
on the use of the site that would be filed with the Register of
Deeds where the property is located, to use site-specific standards
and alternative cleanup. Future owners of the property would have
notice of the use restrictions, and would be prohibiting attempting
any change in use which might increase the risk from the hazardous
substances on the site. Several other states have adopted similar
provisions.
The Committee anticipates further input from the various sub-groups, and these will in turn be reported to the Section through this newsletter. Future areas of focus regard economic incentives that may be available to spur brownfields redevelopment, and the use of Tenn. Code Ann. § 68-212-202(E)(i), which excludes units of state or local government that obtain property involuntarily from the definition of a liable party for the site. Perhaps this section could be used, along with an apportionment order, to create greater protection for a prospective purchaser.
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Our mid-year meeting successfully moved the ball forward on a
number of important matters involving the membership. A discussion
concerning the membership benefits that work, as well as those
ideas that have not worked out, resulted in general agreement
that the Environmental Law Forum and the newsletters are valuable
tools for the members. On the other hand, in general, the membership
did not support attempts to hold quarterly brown-bag luncheon
meetings. It was agreed that a reception at the Annual Solid and
Hazardous Waste Conference (held this year April 15-17) was a
good idea and a suggestion was made that an attempt be made to
obtain CLE credit for at least a portion of the conference. That
suggestion is being investigated by Joe Sanders and Jim Wright.
A portion of the mid-year meeting was spent discussing the goals
and work of the Brownfields Committee and there is a separate
report contained in this newsletter concerning the Brownfields
Committee. I thank all of the members of that committee for their
diligent efforts.
I regretfully announce that Steve Stout has decided to leave
the Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation and to
focus his career in an area of the law that does not principally
involve the environment. As a result, Steve resigned his leadership
as an officer of the Section and as co-chair of the Brownfields
Committee. We certainly appreciate Steves hard work, and he will
be greatly missed as a leader of the Section.
Ed Callaway was elected to replace Steve as the Secretary/Treasurer.
I am grateful to Ed, who has been the newsletter Editor, for his
commitment to the Section. I am also grateful to Sharon Jacobs
of Wyatt, Tarrant & Combs, who has agreed to replace Ed as the
newsletter Editor.
I again encourage any member who would like to become more involved
in the Section to contact me. There are a number of committees
and projects that could use some fresh ideas and hard work!
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